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Title A name given to the resource Charles and Grace Childs audio pt. 2 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2015-02-15 https://d1y502jg6fpugt.cloudfront.net/46614/archive/files/4997a38e73a7005ee1e157ab809d1c7b.pdf?Expires=1790208000&Signature=SFIUcZ1V%7EYmegJILUXsDT64gqrTS1n6U%7Ef9Dk8f-OoZGyVTMt9Z05fcPtsHNjpNpnZ0ZsAUScyDUyraPETJfcVRQiTrY0MNqpcGf5-oVgV5HhwhSHtuNYo2gmcX6tQIzWqT95L21uQdNYaTjLjvFslTrvZFKXdwyTzf3XreH0I65GH%7EU4909HjQuV3AjKJL6CVSBcQig9TSs6VgBtsM2vBFfzlgnSCr6Xw2OIheY9PGUyJ6gfPb218H6eL%7Ejbbg54m4Cc7cgekepfKfliMN1BhLI7gs-KjIG2H9%7ErKnMvPBnKK9GNfxC8CqeJYMS-LnzUkcd2OCEPFUGTsHa2HmU0w__&Key-Pair-Id=K6UGZS9ZTDSZM adf27988939f28b258eb8a80e8c83590 PDF Text Text Kim: Let’s see which one is it, oh okay this one. Okay, today is Thursday, February 12th two thousand and fifteen. And I am with Grace and Chuck Childs again to continue our conver, earlier conversation, and we’ll pick up with the arrival in Rapid City in 1959, so…. Chuck: I just returned from Greenland, service. And I had some choices of bases that I could go to. And I picked Ellsworth, and got Ellsworth. So I came to Ellsworth for my retirement in ‘59. I retired in 19, February 1961. Well, getting on the service, looking for a job. It just happened to be at that time that the Titan Program was going full strong. And they were hiring anybody, just bodies actually. And I was hired on as a project control man eighty feet below the ground at the Tyson, Titan Missile out past uh Hermosa. And as I, in the nighttime we’d go out and look and we’d see the missiles and put ‘em up and the lights on them and steam and it’s kinda beautiful. But I just sometimes wondered if they’d ever get up off the ground they were so big. So then we went to the Minuteman Program, so I moved into a job with Patriot and Kern. My job was at that time was cable. I was responsible for checking the cable, making sure the cable was laid. I’d go down to the railroad station and they’d cut me the big rolls. They’d just bang against each other. They’d smash five feet of cable and I’d just accept it. And then they’d lay the cable, and you know we had 150 sites you know. And they’d lay those cables. Just a funny story, when we were laying up in Faith Country, in the hot country. We’d dig the cables, I mean, we’d have the, have the trenches dug. Then we’d get a phone call that somebody’s cow or bull or something had fallen in the trench. And so they’d say you owe me so much money and the crew would pay it. By the time they realized it, they were getting took. So there was a rancher up near Faith who happened to have an airplane he liked to fly. So they hired him. And every time they’d get a call, he’d fly up and deal with the rancher. But he got the right price because he was a rancher and he knew what it cost to get a cow. And another incident once laying the summer that hot summer, the cable layers would not lay the cable because there were so many rattlesnakes that were fall in the trenches. So they hired a kid from Faith, he was kind of a nutty kid, to walk in front of these cable layers and he’d throw the rattlesnakes out and they’d lay the cable. Kim & Chuck: Laughter Chuck: Well that job quit. Finally. And then, I went with the Boy Scouts of America. And I became a District Director for the Boy Scouts. I worked with the Scouts for some time. Finally, uh, the only way I could work with the Boy Scouts I had to go to Aberdeen, Maryland, uh I mean Aberdeen, South Dakota. And uh, Grace and the children stayed here. That just wasn’t working too good cause I’d come home on the weekends and that wasn’t very good. So I got out of that job, and I put in for a job with the courts. Judge Marshall Young was starting a brand new program called the Juvenile Program. He had to have Juvenile Probation Officers. And so, I was hired with two other men to be Juvenile Probation Officers. I worked for that a while for the seventh uh, court, seventh juvenile, uh seventh court of South Dakota. Then all of a sudden, we were transferred to adults. So then I was working probation officer, court services for the adults. Besides being the probation officer, my job was writing pre-sentences for all the judges. And uh, I had that job for about thirteen years. A lotta interesting things happened and I worked with the good and I worked with the bad and I worked with some pretty, pretty bad guys. Um, one Christmas Eve our children were here for Christmas. And it was a good smash and the big window went out and a big rock come in. And our little granddaughter was laying on the couch when all that glass hit. So that got serious at times. So I worked that job and then uh, I got time to get out of the service, I mean out of the court services. So I went back to the Boy Scouts for a while. Until I finally quit the Boy Scouts, and I’ve been retired ever since then. �What have I been doing since then? I’ve been doing a lot of dance band playing. A lot of good jazz bands, good Dixie bands. I played at the Franklin Hotel for 13 years. I quit drumming at the age of 90. And uh, ‘til then I been going to this meetings of the Veterans Writers Group and I’ve been speaking. I’m the President of the Berlin Airlift Association. And I've been doing a lot of traveling. I was invited to Berlin last May for the Berlin Airlift 70th, 65th Anniversary and they wined and dined us and being the president I had a wonderful time over there. Came back from that and then the second bomb group from the 15th air force came over ____ we did a lot of bombing in Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia, Romania, Poland and Germany. We had a mission one day they knock down the ___________ squadron. They had a lot of fighters showed up and we thought that they were our fighters. They were flying above us and going back and forth. Just like all of the sudden they turned. When they hit the sun and here they come. They knocked ten of our airplanes down. That's a hundred boys in Czechoslovakia. Every little village in Czechoslovakia that has a crash site has put a monument up at the crash site and every year they have a memorial service. And this is the 70th year of the event. So we are invited over there. Just another guy, myself are the only two left during that mission. And so we are put in front in the chairs and they did the memorial services and that was quite the event. Just wonderful. Kim: When do they hold that observance? Chuck: This is in August. This last August. Kim: Is it on the day of the mission? Chuck: Yeah, they have a big Catholic mass there. One monument. And as these priests come out of their cars, they had everything set up. This other guy and I are sitting in the front in two chairs and all of the sudden. Here comes a car and this Cardinal steps out to have the mass. A Czech Cardinal. He walks over to the other man and myself, shakes our hand, then he goes back to have mass. All he did was look at those priests and they jump. I mean every time he would just look at them and they jump. It was kind of interesting to watch. So that was quite an experience but the big experience was the other man and myself, not being Catholic, we sat up in front. We never knew when to stand or when to sit and so one time we were standing when we were supposed to be sitting and everybody else was sitting and somebody came up and tapped me on the shoulder. So those are the things I have been doing and I just got back from Oklahoma City. We have a reunion down there in Sept. And so another gentleman from North Carolina and myself have went down there to make arrangements. We were at a restaurant and was coming back from the restaurant and on a side street and it was raining and a little foggy. Here comes a car busting out of the fog right at me. All I could see was two big headlights so I just made one big dive. I ended up in emergency with the ball of my shoulder all crushed so I am sitting here waiting for an operation which happens tomorrow. That was 23 days after the accident. So that is what has happened in my life since we came to Rapid City. �Kim: You say the Titan 1. Were you in the Titan One missiles then from through the construction through the activation? Chuck: __________. Kim: When did they shut that program down? After the Minutemen were built? Chuck: Yeah the Minutemen were built then when they shut down the Minutemen came in. They closed them out and then the Minutemen took over. Kim: How many people did you have at one of those Titan complexes? Oh downstairs we had desks all around the place. We had a lot of people. Then the three sites you would have to walk and walk underground to get to this site. Then if you would go to the other site, you would have to go the other direction and the one thing I remember about being down there was those huge generators. I don't know how they got them down there. I think they are still sitting there. They were so big those big generators and we had all those lights and everything. Everything was pretty modern. 10:57 Kim: My first Missile assignment was Titan 2 down in Tucson so I got to see some of... that was just the one missile that we had there. Chuck: Did you think it would fly? Kim: You know I think they did fly a couple of them. They actually test launched one of them at Vandenberg when I was out there for training. It’s an amazing thing. Chuck: It was a good bluff for Russia. They didn't know if they would fly or not. Kim: Right, they had to assume they would. Chuck: Yeah they had to assume they would. Kim: So then I have heard that when they built the Minuteman complex they had thousands or tens of thousands of people working on building that. Chuck: Everybody in South Dakota had a job. I mean there were people that had never worked in their life were working. They didn't have to know much. Will you carry the cable? That was a job. They got paid for just carrying the cable. So it was a very interesting program. 150 sites you know. There was a lot of work. Now it all closed down. Kim: That was my last job on active duty. When I retired. Chuck: Underground? Kim: Well I was... I directed the crews that initially went out and saved all 150 of the missiles when President HW Bush sent a message down and said I want all of your missiles off of alert on Monday and he sent it like on Friday or something. It was a big job getting that �done. But yeah, it was a direct communication from the president to take the 44th Strategic Missile Wing off of alert. Chuck: Took it out of SD. Kim: Yeah it took several years after that to get it all cleaned up but within a couple of days every one of those missiles that had been on alert was no longer able to launch. It was mechanically safe. So what's your observation on how Rapid City has changed in that time and Grace you can...? Chuck: When we came to Rapid City in 1959 we lived on 31 St. Anne and about 3 or 4 blocks south was the end of town. And where the hospital is today was a big pasture. And in that pasture our daughter had a horse. So Rapid City has just gone wild. It has built so much and they are still building and we used to be able to walk down the street downtown. Hi Chuck, how are you HI, I walk downtown now nobody even knows me. It's just changed that much. It's become a big city. I don't like big cities. Kim: Yeah I am thinking we are probably at least a couple of miles south of where you lived now and there is still town a mile or so south of us here. Chuck: And it’s still going still going still building. And then of course the school district problems come up and Grace is involved in the school districts. I mean as a teacher. She can go from here. Kim: What did you teach? Grace: Well we came in '59. I'll start there if I may. We had 4 children in school. One in junior high, two in Annie Tallent and I don't care what they call it today it’s still Annie Tallent. And one in high school and we moved in on the day of the big Deadwood fire Sept. 8th. I started substitute teaching. I did a stint out at the base. They had a program developed to help the GI's prepare for the GED test. There were a lot of boys that and I say boys because at the time there weren't any girls that didn't have the background that was called for so we didn't teach the test because we didn't know the test but we taught what we thought the test was going to be. English, mathematics, a little bit of grammar and that was in English and spelling and a little bit of history and it was heartbreaking to know what the young men did not know and so I did several. They had a 4 week program and I did several of those and then I was hired full time. 4th grade. And I was never promoted. I retired after 20 years still in the 4th grade. But I started out in Wilson school and Robbinsdale was expanding so rapidly and they needed teachers and Wilson was not increasing so they sent 4 teachers from Wilson to Robbinsdale an there I remained until I retired. Most rewarding occupation. I still see and still hear from former students. Once in a while I run across somebody that remembers me that I haven't seen for 40 years, 50 years. Chuck: She had a two year teacher’s certificate from college. So she forgot to tell you that if she wanted to advance anymore she would have to get education so she went to BH Teachers and got her degree. Grace: I got my BS in 1972 at the age of 52. Kind of late but I was doing the work that the others were doing at quite a bit less income. It seemed kind of unfair but that was the way it �was set up but I did retire in '83, '82 and since then we got into RV's and spent a lot of time traveling the United States. We have been in an RV in every state in the union, other than Alaska but we have been to Alaska. We have been to Hawaii as well. And we have been to all provinces of Canada in an RV. We've been to Mexico several times in the RV. My husband became national president of the Masonic camping group. I should say forced but it enabled us to be involved all over the United States and we made friends well across the nation. We still have contact with them. We sold our last RV of 7 when we moved into the apartment and felt that at our age it was kind of wrong to be on the road, be responsible for somebody else’s problems. I was proud to be able to drive all of them and have my husband go to sleep while I was driving. So I felt pretty confident about that. Kim: That's the trust factor. Grace: And at age 94. We each passed our drivers test without glasses so we still have drivers’ licenses and we are still both driving which is pretty special. Chuck: Now I want to go back. I get out of the service but I've got three years of college. That was it. So I decided I want to get my degree. So I went to Black Hills College and got my degree in History and Sociology and then I had 36 hours of court service work. And so I feel pretty good about that. I finally got out of the service and finally got a degree. I am pretty proud of that. Criminology was one of my main things. I've got 36 hours of criminology. But one thing that Grace mentioned about her students calling. Every once in a while the phone would ring and some guy I had on probation says I want to thank you for saving my life and one day the phone rang and a man said could you meet me? I'd like my son to meet you. I thought wow. So I went down and had lunch with this man and there's his son and he's telling me he would not have been a father if it hadn't been for me that got him straightened out. So pretty proud of that. Kim: Yeah that's a really big accomplishment. Chuck: And so our life here is comfortable and we are comfortable and everything is just coming up roses. Everything is fine. I think we are doing really well at our age. Grace: But maybe we should add that three of our children graduated from college. The 4th one chose not to be and became an artist instead. Very good artist. Two of them have passed away. And the other two are still with us. They live in southwestern Minnesota and are very attentive. In fact one is here today. And real proud of them. Chuck: So we have had a very good 72 years of married life. 73 in July. Can't beat that. So I guess that's what you might call the history of our life. If there is anything we have left out. Kim: Well there's a couple of questions. I have some for each of you actually. When you were in the court services were you operating out of the courthouse? Chuck: Yes, I had an office right there. Kim: Yeah and I should know but Judge Young was that federal or was that. Chuck: Judge Young started his juvenile thing then he became 7th court. I worked with Judge Bottom. And Judge Parker and of course they are dead now you know. And Judge �Theiz and Judge Young and Judge Davis who is still there. And my job was going out and getting the pre-sentences ready for them and they'd read the pre-sentence and the guy would get up with the attorney and lie through his teeth and Judge had my pre-sentence from him and he'd call me in and say what do you think and I’d say judge you are the judge. I said this guy should go or this guy should not. That's just the way it worked. We had a very close relationship. Grace: Judge Young became a federal judge. Chuck: Yes, Judge Young did. Kim: When you moved to Robbinsdale, had Grandview been built yet? Grace: It was just in the process. Kim Just in the process of being built Grace: And that eased it some but the population was moving southeast and so it was overburdening Robbinsdale and it helped but at one time we had five 4th grades which is unusual to have that many of one class. And each of the rooms had two and sometimes three of each class. Kim: You must have been teaching then when Chuck Lindley was the superintendent of schools here. Lindley. Grace: Who? Yes, at one time. I started under Paul C. Stevens. This was kind of strange because in all of the executive positions they have choices that they are privileged to make and I was told that if I wanted to have a permanent position I had to continue with my education which I did periodically and so I was hired on a permanent position but a lady that came in with the same credentials, maybe a month before me was hired on a permanent temporary thing. So she could only teach for 20 days then she had to be off for a few days. Then she could teach for another 20 days. So two people with the same credentials got two different jobs. And at the same time they could not according to policy hire husband and wife to teach in the system. Not in the same building but in the system. We knew a couple that became friends of ours and he was English and Drama and they were in Deadwood and they wanted him and offered him a job but he wouldn't come unless his wife was also hired so it was possible to bend the regulation and they hired the two of them. So you bend the rules if you want to if you are in the position to do so. Kim: Apparently they must have changed that at some point. Formally and officially. Grace: Oh yeah when it became necessary to have more than one ... and when he was talking about the changes in Rapid City. The increase in the medical buildings and facilities. Traffic increased along with the population and I think we can be proud of our medical facilities. We have had nothing but good from them so we are hopefully we are looking forward for tomorrow. Chuck: I had a phone call today about this operation I am going to have tomorrow and he said you won't be doing any drumming so I have to tell ya at the age of 94 I am the �president of the 7th cavalry band and so I still play drums. I don't know maybe a couple months I won't be able to. So I am still beating drums at the age of 74, 94. Boy I wish it was 74. That would be wonderful. Grace: No way do I want to go back. It's been a wonderful life but I wouldn't want to go back and do it over. Much blessed and have many blessings. Kim: Were you in town for the flood in 1972. Chuck: I was involved in that up to my ears. I didn't say anything about it did I. Well being down in the basement when the flood hit. We were home. And the next morning I got my jeep and my son and we went down to the courthouse and there was a major from Colorado happened to be down there and he was just on leave and a couple police officers and we went out and started picking up bodies. And we did that two or three days and judge young called me well later actually. Talked to Judge Young and called me and said we have so many missing people here you've got to do something about it. The sheriff’s office was going crazy down there because the phones were ringing this ones missing this ones missing. Well they asked me if I could take that. So I went up on the first floor. They've got five telephones set up. I had five girls working 24 hours taking phone calls. Finding out who is missing. We had about 4000 people missing. We had a big chart on the wall and then some would call in well I am not missing and we would scratch it and we kept going and I went up to the television station and I worked up there with Duhamel and I gave them the list to announce over the air. And then the phones would ring off the hook. Well I'm not missing. They might have been in a bar or something and didn't get home. Anyhow we kept working and working and we'd go up to Deadwood and we'd find out who's there and we'd find cars from North Carolina and stuff you know and get the license number and we'd call back and you know we left our car. We are home. It took a lot of work. I finally got it down to the 238. Kim: Some of them remain missing don't they? There are still some bodies that were never recovered. Chuck: Well yeah there's 5 bodies that weren't recovered but we know who they were. But there may be others. Somebody that thinks their husband died in the flood. And he just took that opportunity to get out of town. Went down to California or someplace like that. Anyhow that was my job there. And in that job, our family the group that we had picking up bodies became the body pickup. They told you better stop this stuff. Because bodies were coming in from all over and nobody was telling where they come from so they became the permanent body pickup. Our son was one of them. And his wife and my daughter, 2 of my daughters came down and worked with me. A daughter did the cooking, taking care of her baby, she worked with us. My whole family was involved in that. Then when everything closed down, my daughter is the one that passed away. She worked in my office. It took me three months before I closed that out. So that was my job in the flood. I was the missing man person. Yeah I forgot to mention that. Kim: That's a big job. Chuck: It was. Yeah Barnett said you got to get this done. So here it was two years ago they come out and had a big deal. Barnett, he said can you find some of these people that we could get them to come out for this big event. So I went down to the library and had a �young girl work with me and we found over 400 people that came from all over the United States. So every time something happens somebody says call Chuck Childs, he'll find them for you. No, I'm done. (laughter) Grace: I'd like to mention that our son had just returned from Vietnam and was on this bootstrap program at the School of Mines when the flood occurred and so he was deeply involved with that and they received a soldiers medal as a result. Chuck: He and another officer that were working at the School of Mines. Kim: He had enlisted then. Chuck: He was an officer then. He was a captain. And the General at the School of Mines then presented both with a soldier’s medal which is high ranking. Kim: Yes, it is. Chuck: Well they were down in the water. Kim: They say it is the highest non-combat award a soldier can possibly....I was a student. I took advantage of the bootstrap program to finish my Bachelor’s Degree at Black Hills State. My wife's an Alum of Black Hills State also. So I am quite familiar with that program. Grace: Well when he had joined, because his Dad was Air Force, of course he didn't want to be Air force, he was rebelling. He was in college. He was not doing well. And so he decided he would join the Army and immediately went into OCS and he was tired of studying so for the next two or 3 years he was in programs where he was studying this or studying that but that was different. Then he ended up in artillery and ended up in Vietnam for two years and then took advantage of bootstrap when he came back and did very well then because he had married and had a reason for succeeding. Chuck: His grade went from D to A's. Kim: Life particularly when it involves something as traumatic as combat has a tendency to help you focus. Chuck: He really grew up. Yeah he was going to school and he was majoring in poker playing, cigar smoking and drinking. So one day I wanted to talk to him, I went down and I found what class he was supposed to be in and I waited and everybody came out of the class and he didn't. So I peeked my head in to the instructor there and I asked him about him. He said oh, he's here once in a while. So the next day we had a conversation. I said what do you want do. You going to go to the Air Force, what are you going to go into? Cause you are not going to school anymore. That's the way we finished it. That's a good thing that happened. He wasn't ready for school. Kim: Did you live on St. Anne Street then when the flood hit. Grace: We had moved up to 18 Oakland. �Kim: You were just pretty much aware that it was raining a lot. Was about what your experience of it was until you went downtown. Grace: Well we had a group of friends and we had gone out to celebrate two birthdays. Mine and a lady. Mine was the 10th and hers was the 9th and we were going out to Rockerville to have dinner and there were 8 of us. And the other car was ahead with four and we had four. And they stopped up on the hill that used to be the old Snake Pit. Reptile Gardens. And they stopped and they said we don't think we should go any farther. And that is not very far out of town. So we decided to turn around and go back and we'd go to downtown Romans Ron de vu for dinner. Well by the time we got down the hill, the sun was shining and it was not even raining. And it was a good thing we didn't go because Rockerville got hit pretty hard. So we went in for dinner and of course they had curtains and we didn't see but we could hear once in a while when the band wasn't playing the thunder and occasionally see through the windows the lightning and about 11 the couple that were with us were the pastor and his wife. And they had a babysitter and she said if you don't mind we would like to go home. We feel very uncomfortable with the new babysitter with the storm. My husband said I will come pick you up at the door. Well he drove right up on the sidewalk to pick us up. And he said I think I will go down the street a little ways and see what is going on. Well this was St. Joe. Well we begged him not to. Which again was a good thing because it wasn't good at 11 o'clock down there and we dropped them off which was close to our house to our home. And called our son who was living on Oakland a few blocks east of us. And one of our daughters who is there with them. So we drove over there. And our son who is kind of apprehensive about things. He'd get real upset about stuff. He said well now Dad drive real carefully when you get to Hawthorne on Oakland because he said the water is pretty deep. Yeah poo hoo don't worry about it. So he said Charles is just getting upset again. So we get to Hawthorne and the water was pretty deep. Chuck: It went over my hood. Grace: And so he decided well he had reason. So just a block or two up the street was there house. Well he dropped me off and he said he picked up, we had a four wheel drive. And so he picked up Charles and started back and they got to Hawthorne and couldn't get through. It was too deep to go so they came back and waited for a while and when the water went down on Hawthorne then we went home. Which was about midnight or so, maybe a little after. Everything was nice and calm, went to bed. Seven o'clock the next morning my mother called from North Dakota. And she said how are you? Are you ok? I said why not? Everything’s fine. Well she said we have heard the news. I said "What news?" She said "About the flood in Rapid City." That was the first we heard. And she said we heard about all the deaths and all the missing people. So of course then we got up and got moving and he went immediately down to the courthouse and picked up our son and they went down to volunteer for the pickup. Chuck: Just to back up a minute when I picked them up at the night club we were at the water was already up to my door running down the street. Grace: And he wanted to go farther. Chuck: It would be interesting to see what’s going on but ...anyhow. So that was the flood. �Grace: It was an exciting time. It was all of the deaths and injuries. We had no personal friendships involved which we are grateful for. Chuck: On your side. I had many that I had worked with on probation. Grace: Yeah but not family. Chuck: No, no family. So that is our life. We're still alive. Kim: I hope to catch up with the next 20 years from you here. Grace: Not likely. Honestly I hope not. Kim: I understand I think. Grace: I have no desire. Kim: But you've had an incredibly eventful life. Grace: For which we are incredibly grateful. Chuck: ____ 14, 15, 16 years old, joining a carnival at 17 and dance bands and all that stuff and ending up a retired Lt. Colonel. Kim: I think it might top out at flying 37 combat missions in the B-24 and Chuck: B-17 Kim: B-17 sorry ______ well I saw both of them there and I.... Chuck: I instructed in 24's but I.... Kim: Well as far as I am concerned the B-52 is still the best airplane. Chuck: I wouldn't be here either. Kim: As far as I am concerned the B-52 is the best airplane ever built. Grace: Of course. Kim: B-17 is literally the Grand Dad of the B-52. Grace But we both survived the depression era, came from very humble families both of us. And again gratitude seems a very simple word to use but we have a comfortable living and multitudes of friends. Chuck: Well you know back in the depression days in the small towns like we come from everybody’s in the same boat. So nobody... you know it’s a normal thing. We were in the depression. We didn't have anything and our neighbors didn't have anything. �Kim: Nobody you knew did. Chuck: Yes, we were all in the same boat. Kim: That does make a tremendous difference I think. Grace: and to see the changes that have taken place. My mother lived to 101. So she went from coming over from Norway on a small boat in perhaps 1890 and the changes every once in a while she would comment on the changes she had seen. She lived through the jet age. When she was 90 in her little town. They had a picture of her seated on a float for their Days of whatever they called them. Their historical days and she was seated on a Harley Davidson motorcycle and the banner that was there. Grandmas off her rocker, she's on a Harley and they had a rocking chair on the float. So she was proud of the changes she had seen. And since her death we have seen the age change through the electronics. I am not, I enjoy some of it but I am not happy with what it has done to the families and children and it seems to me that everything has gotten either political or money related. If you have enough dollars it doesn't matter what you do. Chuck: And the children have no discipline at all. Grace: A few of them do but not many. They are happy with it. They seem to think it is a wonderful.... Talked to a lady this morning and she was talking about these children that were in the freezing water that lived I don't remember the news item but evidently they had been floundered into the water and it was freezing and she said they had said a prayer, the children had for safety. And I said it is kind of remarkable to know that some of the children even know what it is to say a prayer. So... Chuck: They survived? Grace: Yes. Chuck: Guess I didn't read that. Grace: And they gave credit to the fact that the water was so cold that it kind of froze the body functions eventually they would have died undoubtedly but for that time they were in it, it preserved it, the coldness. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Charles and Grace Childs transcript pt. 2 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interviews Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Rapid City Public Library Description An account of the resource Oral Histories recorded for the Rapid City Oral History Project by Rapid City Public Library Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Charles Childs Grace Childs Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Kim Morey Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 53:15 Location The location of the interview Rapid City Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interview: Charles and Grace Childs; Part 2 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 02-12-2015 Subject The topic of the resource 1972 Flood, Berlin Airlift, Black Hills Jazz Band, Black Hills Veteran's Writing Group, Boy Scouts of America, education, Minuteman Missile Program, Judge Marshall Young, Rapid City, Rapid City Schools, South Dakota, teaching, Titan Missile Program Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource signed release to Rapid City Oral History Project on file. Description An account of the resource In this second interview with Grace and Charles "Chuck" Childs, the couple talks about their life after moving to Rapid City in 1952. Chuck was involved in the Minuteman Missile program. He also recounts his time working for the Boy Scouts and as a probationary officer. Grace speaks of her time as a teacher for the Rapid City School District. Chuck also recounts his memory of the 1972 flood. Both have many stories of their work, family, and past-times while living in Rapid City. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context https://catalog.rapidcitylibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=289804 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Rapid City Public Library Language A language of the resource en Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Rapid City Oral History Project Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Rapid City Public Library Historic Rapid City Rapid City Library Foundation Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Rapid City, (S.D.) 1950s-2010s. 1972 Flood Annie Tallent Elementary School Berlin Airlift Black HIlls Veteran's Writing Group Boy Scouts of America Judge Marshall Young Minuteman Missile Program Rapid City Rapid City Education Rapid City Schools Robbinsdale Elementary South Dakota Teaching Titan Missile Program Wilson Elementary